Bartlein barrels vs krieger barrels 223 price It was GM, Bartlein, Benchmark, Krieger and Lilja. 0455"). 5 Creedmoor Krieger Barrel Manufactured for LMT MARS-H Ready to Ship Regular Price $1,100. 060 Freebore is the same as 223 Wylde and after Extensive testing we found it to be way more accurate with all types of ammo. If I felt the need for that level of accuracy potential in a 10/22, I wouldn't hesitate to but a Bartlein barrel. I have not seen a difference in accuracy, ease of tuning, etc. for a very reasonable price I'm working on a 308. 223 Wylde. 5 barrel. I would say they were in this order of how they shot: Krieger/Bartlein Benchmark/Green Mountain Lilja The Krieger and Bartlein shot about the same with the Krieger edging out the Bartlein on that day with that ammo slightly at My LW barrel is fairly accurate but I have many other Bartlein or Krieger barrels that would make it look bad by comparison. Not the cheapest or the most expensive. 4 MOA to 0. 224 centerfire blanks. Two names consistently rise to the top: Bartlein and Krieger. dissipated heat faster than steel. 224 cal it's that much better than the competition. 670; avg . Choose options below We use a . 3 lbs, depending if i No one has mentioned McGowen barrels, one of my personal favorites. Sort By: BARTLEIN CUT-RIFLED BARRELS (6mm) $450. com. I did notice the cylinder section at the breech of the Palma Contours varied some for the Krieger barrels (Krieger’s was 1/2″ shorter than what is shown here). Minuteman. Bartlein has the gain twist and left hand stuff cornered. 710, . Reply. That said, I've owned some fantastic shooting Bartlein 5R barrels and I would buy more Bartlein if my vendors had more choices in 4-groove. This would be a 6mm, 4 groove, 13. Price: $450. I liked the cut rifling but that is a personl thing and nothing to do with accuacy. 223 barrels? The Art of the Rifle: Semi-automatics Bartlein Barrels Benchmark Barrels Hawk Hill Customs Krieger Barrels 600 yds) after 3500-4000 rounds but cut rifled barrels like Krieger will go longer, usually over 5000 anyway. 1- 223- brux I also have 2 blanks on order from brux ! S. Ready to order another in 30/9T for a 300 NM improved or 300 PRC build. Bartlein. WTS Kimber 308 win / 223 rem switch barrel cjones87; Feb 27, 2025; Guns Classifieds; Replies 3 Views 252. Where the reasoning for . Every Krieger AR-15 barrel that I’ve owned has produced 10-shot groups with extreme spreads of less than ¾ MOA. In . Again mtn rifle 600 yards max. Rimfire blanks on left, centerfire on right. View Details & More Images 6. Yesterday at Both of those are very heavy barrels, at just over 0. GAP did . 1" . A . DJL2 Retired Sapper. Even though I've personally never used a Bartlein barrel before, I would feel 100% Bartlein, Brux, Rock Creek, Mullerworks, and Kreiger are my choices in steel barrels. Krieger has been delivering blanks way way faster, like 1/3 the time. 223 WYLDE, 223 Long Range: Optic will be NF ATACR 4-16 tremor3. Bartlein owners use to work for Krieger. Reactions: Idaho-Lefty, Zero333 Hornady Headspace and Bullet Comparator Sets LOWERED PRICE. To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50yd results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Bartlein but it was so close you can call the 50yd results equal (. 6 MOA consistently from a gas gun, even out to 1000yds. 5-28x50 3W-I with BTF I’ve owned 16”, 20” and 24” Krieger AR-15 barrels. Reactions: Mj30wilson900 and NamibHunter. I’be been through over 20 6mm barrels on numerous different rifles. The author clearly likes them a lot. kyotekiller25 Sergeant of the Hide. 22cm, etc. Padom noted: “Winds were much calmer tonight than this morning so the 100-yard Krieger test was a success. 56 barrels a few weeks back and it was definitely sub-moa. Then, on the Bartlein side, I see offerings of 99% (or more) 5R barrels. My first two 5 shot groups were . 223 barrels. Preferred turnaround time Includes chamber, muzzle threads, and This test is to see if there is any measurable, noticeable difference between a 308win Bartlein 5R or Krieger 4 Groove for the average shooter, shooting the way 99% of the people on THIS forum shoot. Interesting test, and good shooting on your part padom! I'm very much looking forward to the results with the Bartlein as compared to the Krieger. 224 barrel blank is for centerfire . Joined Apr 1, 2013 Choosing the right barrel for your precision rifle is a critical decision. 00: Qty. Krieger Barrel Bartlein Barrel . and leave nothing to be desired from the Bartlein, Krieger, and Proof barrels I've had or have been behind. Unless you want a thicker barrel for some reason or you just want a cf cause it looks badass it doesn't seem worth it. Re: KREIGER Barrels VS HART Barrels Kreiger is cut rifled and Hart is not. Some of these are not spun up yet, most are. Hi everyone, I'm debating going with a JC Custom barrel for a 223 build. Not any form of NiChrome steel I've ever been around (has nasty harmonics). 30 - 11T - 4G - 26" $449. The chips looked just like the stuff. Since most quality off the shelf barrels are So if I'm reading you right you're saying bartlein and krieger are on par with each other so far and the shilen were great but required more cleaning vs the other 2. Good ammo is more important than which badge on the barrel. Elevate your shooting game with Craddock Precision's expertise on Bartlein barrels. 22 RF and . 56 Match chambers. I can't say anything bad about the Douglas. 720 Muzzle; Gas System - 16 inch Midlength, 18 inch Intermediate (includes Gas Tube), 20 Inch Rifle; PF Bolt matched to Regular Price $870. 005). D. K. . non cf and cut rifle Home. build and wondered if anybody had some insight on Hart Barrels versus a Bartlein or Kreiger, Prices seem pretty similar, but is it an apples to apples comparison? They do make some very nice barrels! They are Button rifled, vs Krieger and some others that are Cut rifled. Full Member. Posted by Mike on Dec 21st 2020 Barrel shipped Price #4 - CM - M98 - 6. Both are renowned for producing high-quality, match-grade barrels, but they differ in their manufacturing processes and resulting characteristics. 383, . chambers in Shilen . ” Test Results at 100 Yards Padom then tested ammo at 100 yards, again using his Krieger rimfire barrel: “To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50-yard results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Also, see Shilen. I've shot Krieger, Bartlein, Lothar Walther, Benchmark, Hawk Hill, K&P, Green Mountain, and a Proof stainless in 6 Dasher, 6. 135 freebore as stated on the SAAMI Reamer Print. For a 308 build recently, i went with rainier ultramatch and they would test it against multiple barrels and find the best fit. You won't get a better quality or more accurate barrel. Compass Lake Engineering offers Bartlein barrels now, as well as Krieger Wide variety of standard twist rates to catch popular bullet weights in a given caliber as well as custom twist rates available. 24" barrel . Reactions 300 Norma, 338 Lapua, 223, pick your poison on 6mm's and 6. I am looking at a barrel for my next custom build. 135 freebore came from we have no idea. 5 MOA I can live with that. Altus also ships things out fast. 2 barrels save 12. 7” twists. The barrel felt like generic 17ph4 re-arc melt stainless steel. 750 Gas Block - Hbar Profile, . New posts Search forums. Featured content. 223, SWFA 20X scope, 77 SMK reloads. Modern Button rifled barrels are great, but cut If you look at most equipment lists of the top scoring competitors at most national level competitions, probably 50-75% are using Bartlein barrels. Krieger and Lilja are to other favorites. Last edited: Oct 17, 2020. 6038 MOA The cost of the barrel alone would have potentially hit 1k, although a custom carbide reamer would have been a significant part of that. 236 and . Bartlein Barrels strive to be the best in the firearms industry and have solidified themselves as a world class barrel manufacturer. Both offer 5R, but it will cost you on the Krieger and equalize the prices between them. between Krieger 4G’s, Krieger 5R’s, Bartlein 5R’s and Bartlein 4G’s. Krieger Barrels; Leofoto; Lone Peak Arms; MagnetoSpeed; Manners Composite Stocks; Masterpiece Arms; Price Update Clear 13 of 13 Items. 720 Muzzle target crowned. May 10, 2015 Would the harder steel of the Lother Walther make it "worth it" for the extra machining time/cost. ) match or target barrel will shoot straighter than I can. Altus seems to have them in stock more than most other places at a competitive price. Have a Bartlein . Both Craddock and Compass Lake use top of the line blanks: Krieger, Bartlein, Douglas, Criterion (for the most part). Thread starter Bugholes; Start date Apr 21, 2023; Bugholes Sergeant. View Details & More Images: 22 ARC Match Grade Precision Barrel 22 ARC Match Grade Precision Barrel Krieger Krieger Barrels vs Bartlein Barrels Which is Right for Your Rifle Choosing the right barrel for your rifle is a crucial decision impacting accuracy longevity an Wide range of customization options, excellent accuracy, often faster lead times than Krieger. 3 or 0. Bartlein Barrels Sorry to hear that Frank I'm sure you will handle it Mike R. I recently got to look inside a Krieger barrel when the owner brought his Hawkeye borescope to the range. Deleted member 46119 Guest. Krieger For example, Krieger offers both . Really interested in how this compares to the group as Ive never owned or shot a Krieger 22LR barrel to In conclusion with the Krieger barrel testing here, across 25rd (5x5) with factory ammo its just over a half moa shooter, with 175SMK handloads its a half moa shooter all day and with 175 TMK handloads its a sub halfmoa shooter all day. everything Ive gotten from them was pretty hit and miss. 223 Wylde Chamber. about 300 rounds of loaded ammo. Odin 16. Jan 6, 2012 63 0 77. 308 cal all 3 of the ones mentioned are a good products. So I'm really only guessing. If it means my groups will go from 0. All of those mentioned will shoot better than me. I recently paid 311 bucks for a full custom barrel from them. Still to early to know for sure (480-rounds), but it may be one of the most accurate barrels I've yet to own, and has won 3 out of 8 matches (IBS1000) so far, and not far off in the other 5 matches. 3moa 5 shot groups with the 73eld-m bullets (Thanks Padom). Guys- I have a few odds and ends barrels for sale. 308 Win with I have had a couple of barrels in both Douglas and Bartlein. 5x more expensive than the Criterion (called Krieger and they quoted ~$575 including shipping vs LRB's Criterion of $379). I. Absolutely incredible barrels and Canadian A new barrel is going to cost you $1,000 chambered and fitted. 223 in cro. For those of you who have JC Custom barrels, how do they compare against the big boys Benchmark, Krieger, Bartlein etc? Now that you've used your JC barrel for a while, would you buy another one? If not, why not? Thanks Face454 20" Krieger Barrel home build . Proof Sendero light vs # 3 Bartlein is maybe 5 oz lighter? JP barrels are likely awesome but they don't have the pedigree and track record of kreiger, lilja. 9” diameter at the muzzle on a 26” barrel, which is the length most of these guys were running (more on barrel length later). Seems like a compromise between cost and availability vs ultimate accuracy. Both barrels are excellent and I have owned both and still have Kreigers. You can post here then email the shop your info at Southernprecisionrifles@gmail. Joined The contours shown are for Bartlein barrels. 56 CP Match, precision meets perfection for unrivaled accuracy in every shot. 5 Creedmoor, 308, 6XC, 25 Creedmoor, 6 Creedmoor I have Krieger, Shilen, Brux, Bartlein, McGown, and this Benchmark brand of barrels all chambered in 6Dasher between 2-guns (LT & HV-Gun). Last edited: Mar 23, 2021. Today I'm on the waitlist for an M25RL build from LRB. Oct 16, 2013 1,159 923 OCONUS / on the move. I have a Bartlein on my . 22-250, . Aug 23, 2021 #29 Krieger is first because they are the most prolific 4-groove with my vendors. Same lot/ammo shot out of the Krieger. Both clean up very well and the Krieger is 25' faster, but again, has a melonited barrel. I can say this, the barrels that are installed perform exactly the same. Of course their "shot out" barrels would still be an upgrade for many Discover the Bartlein 22 Caliber Barrel Blank with a 1-8" twist and heavy varmint contour for precision shooting. If you look at most equipment lists of the top scoring competitors at most Krieger have typically run the fastest per caliber for me, but Bartlein and Hawk Hill have always been good barrels. I believe 165 bucks is the base price. Krieger Barrels manufactures custom, single-point cut-rifled barrels for bolt action, AR-15, AR-10, M1 Garand, M14, M1903 along with a variety of services. Accessories Misc barrels for sale, Brux, Bartlein, Krieger, Rock. 223 AI when I Bartlein barrels have always shot great for me. Oct 5, 2023 #14 woods89 WKR. 00 (Full price of barrel) . In general a good Bartlein and a good Krieger will (properly tuned, chambered and fitted) In the short range benchrest game Bartlein and Krieger barrels are used. 060 Freebore instead of the . 10. I have decided to shop around and compare pricing this time and was wondering if Craddock or Precision Firearms are in the same league as CLE. Started with 5R’s then a couple of years later I began ordering 4 groove. By max in forum 110-Series Rifles Replies: 2 Hello everyone. 5 MOA range. 22 calibers like . 5 Creedmoor Krieger Barrel Manufactured for LMT MARS-H Ready to Ship: 6. 646, . This may well be because the Krieger is on a BAT action and the Bartlein on a B78. Here's a picture I just snapped for you of barrel coins from my Bartlein and Krieger . Rainier Match or Ultramatch- I’ve got 2 of the UM’s and they can produce sub . 223 Rem, 5. I’ve owned Krieger AR-15 barrels with 1:9” twists and 1:7. Choosing the right barrel for your precision rifle is a critical decision. The biggest reason they dominate in BR competition is that so many This listing is for Barrel and Bolt Only!!! 223 Wylde Barrel using Bartlein Cut Rifled Barrel 5R Rifling; 1-8 Twist; Stainless. The Krieger is about 1. The IBI barrels appear to shoot well but take a while to run in. Are you seeing Bartlein/Krieger levels of accuracy from Proof? Given the cost of a custom build and the ADDED cost of a Proof, I am just curious how these barrels compare to the best of the all-steel cut-rifled lot. I know some guys mentioned ER Shaw. Cut vs Button rifled is a whole 'nother debate. Got a Bartlein barrel at LRI that Still similar numbers for Bartlein across the board lot of shooters seem to think they are worth 40% more than a Proof. Started by OldM70; Mar 12, 2025; Swarovski Z8i 3. The rifle will be used for hunting up to medium and even long distances (i consider a 450 yards shot a long one for small 50 lbs roe deer) and the overall weight will be between 11 and 10. 223 Remington 700. Both are good shooters but the Krieger is better. I will have to decide between Bartlein's special sauce VS. PHENOMENAL! For about 10 years now I've shot nothing but Bartlein or Krieger, mostly 4 groove Bartlein and have only had two barrels that had to go back one from CLE and one from Craddock. I don’t know if it changed barrel life, but I know I want one in . The Match barrel has done great with the 75 hpbt, typically . I’m currently debating between an LMT MLR with their 16” stainless steel barrel or a CLE Bartlein/Krieger with the barrel specs that I got from @bigjake83 in another thread. It's a 22" Kukri, and on any given day, it and the 22" Krieger sendero on another V Mainly because so many good shooters use this specifically. 00 22 ARC Barrel available in Criterion, Krieger, Bartlein. I have used more Bartleins than anything especially considering the Impact by Stuteville barrels are all Bartlein. Two of my V-22s have I never tested a Shilen in this round up review as you stated above. 5X55 - 8T- 5G - 4 Flutes - 26\" #4 - SS - . 5% off machining on both, 3 barrels save 25% off machining on all barrels. Get a KS arms then if you in Canada. There will be a suppressor direct threaded onto the barrel (either CGS Helios DT or HYPERION K). You will notice in the pictures below, I stamped a B at 6 o'clock to identify the Bartlein and a K to identify the Krieger. Its also a great gun. 5 twist type of barrel shot over 100, 200, and 300 yards. NukeMMC Chlanna Nan Con Thigibh A’ So ‘S Gheibh Sibh Feòil. Watch full episode here: https://youtu. 🏹 Perfect for your next project! I had heard good things about Bartlein, so gave them a try in a . You can see the land and groove measurement differences between centerfire and rimfire Who makes the most accurate ar 15 . I know the ammo is capable of that in an ideal situation, but 4 MOA from it is a bit of a head scratcher when others with the same rifle (SAI Loaded's and National Matches) are shooting it in the 2-2. Given how #3s shoot sustained, in my experience they make for great precision/hunters. There may be Bartlein barrels are comparable to Kriegers, but are CNC cut-rifled, making them more available. Bartlein,Krieger,Brux, etc. Seems like a Bartlein 2B or even #3 is pretty close in weight to a Proof Sendero. 223 Wydle, . The . Cons: Higher initial cost in certain configurations, potential for slightly shorter So I'm guessing what we actually need is someone to do real measurements on the inside of the barrel / chamber between 2 similar sized barrels and then write the results based on how many shots / speed of shots in the string. Forums. The best 5 shot group at 100 yards with the Krieger I was able to get so far was this one using Berger 77 OTM bullets: Best 5 shots at 100 yards with the Bartlein so far with Berger 77 OTM bullets: Exactly. Those specs are as follows: 16 I have two 30/375 S. The lapped-in barrels (Krieger and Douglas) MIGHT shoot good longer and clean easier. . 223 chrome lined barrel that shoots 10 round groups sub-MOA. 223 REM, . I begged for a piece of the barrel to take to the lab, but never got it. 5 Bartlein 1/7. They were both 20" varmint . Between Douglas and Bartlein my first choice is Alright winds were much calmer tonight then this morning so the 100yd Krieger test was a success. Krieger makes excellent barrels, as do several others, including but not limited to Bartlein, Schneider, Shilen, Hart, Broughton, Lawton, PacNor, Brux and Rock Creek. 046 (minimum on RimX is 0. Krieger, Bartlein, Shilen and Lilja may be as accurate or more so, but The BA and the rest of the non-price point rifles will get the MPA Spencer barrels. Reactions: clonebuilder. 's; one with a Krieger 4 groove and one with a Bartlein 5r. 260 Rem AR10 that shoots between . V. hafejd30 Supporter. I’ve owned Krieger AR-15 barrels with 223 Remington and 5. 825 Behind Gas Block, . For this reason I would pay the extra for a Bartlein barrels are one of the very best available, and hugely popular among benchrest, F-Class, High Power, and other competitive shooters. However, my Bartlein stay accurate longer and clean much easier, and I feel a lot more confident with the Barltein barrels. Reactions: StrayDog, awtull, PorkChop and 16 others. The Bartlein shot it a little better by 0. I personally own (4) Krieger 5R's, (1) Krieger 4 groove, (3) Bartlein 5R's and (1) Bartlein 4 groove. 56 NATO, or 5. L. I have used more Bartleins than anything especially Save money when chambering multiple barrels at a time. 223, . The only other thing I would add is to make sure you get a bench rest or top of the line barrel. Whether . Bartlein barrels are top notch barrels. There's a link in there to another article specifically on Krieger barrels. CLE was for 18” SPR profile barrel though . I rang the barrel and the harmonics felt like 17ph4 or maybe 18-5. They make finished ARvpattern barrels with a headspaced bolt at about the same price. 237 barrels in 6mm. I have one chambered HH barrel right now and it shoots very well. I was say it has to be a tie between Krieger and Bartlein, They will both shoot 99% accuracy. Or a Lilja or Krieger barrel, for that matter. What's new. They all choose high-grade steels to work with so you don't get pipes with inclusions, and they are all lapped well. silver-duck Private. #7- Bartlein 6mm 10tw SS 5R 2b 24" Bugnut pre-fit for Howa/Wby The will have some blanks coming from Bartlein. Pricing and timeframe will be available in the next day or two. Winds were pretty consistent [at] 3-5 mph. Winds pretty consistent 3-5mph. I'm trying to get maximum accuracy out of this build and I'm trying to decide between a heavy contour 1:10" Krieger or Criterion barrel. 752, . I do have one Bartlein 22RF bbl - it was purchased as a bbl'd action on the last V-22 I bought for myself, so has Mike's RAVAGE chamber. That said, I know just about any name brand (Douglas, Krieger, etc. Cost is a factor, so I appreciate the knowledge of the collective. I have a . 6322", . 7 moa or better. I have a few Krieger barrels, they are excellent, but I've never owned a Bartlein barrel. I own several and all are outstanding accurate and easy to clean barrels. I shot one of their 223/5. Bartlein Barrels . Which barrel company do guys prefer. 223 Wylde AR-15 Barrel, Medium Profile, intermediate gas placement, Padom then tested ammo at 100 yards, again using his Krieger rimfire barrel: “To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50-yard results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Bartlein but it was so close you can call the 50-yard results equal (. 4 and . 750 Gas Block, . There's probably no less than ten different barrel manufacturers out there that all make an equally excellent barrel, both Krieger and Bartlein are, easily, on that list of ten. 308Gunner Krieger Barrels manufactures custom, single-point cut-rifled barrels for bolt action, AR-15, AR-10, M1 Garand, M14, M1903 along with a variety of services. 5's, 7mm's (just to For this review and testing all barrels have/will be chambered by Keystone Accuracy with my 22LR match reamer and headspace is set to . 11" vs the Krieger FGMM FWIW, the M80 I'm shooting is all ZQI ammo which I've confirmed (at least in a bolt gun) shoots the advertised MOA at 100 meters. The rifles I have without Bartlein barrels will have them once they're shot out. 3 MOA (throwing out the very first shot out of the barrel, which would have I would like to see how the benchmark and Bartlein CF barrels work out in the lighter contours and Krieger They all hammer, I don’t think you can go wrong with any that are mentioned Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . Ballistic Advantage is a good option as well. Looking for a pre-fit barrel for a Tikka t3x in maybe 223 or 243 (undecided). be/jxE748swFOY?si=9V4LRXJ6uKoILnuRVisit my website for hardware and software that will help you achieve your competit AR spacegun or varmint rig, get the Krieger barrel. 5" to 20" in length; Mid to Rifle I got a Krieger barrel and a Bartlein barrel from Compass Lake last summer and built two AR uppers. If no one has what I want in Krieger then I will go Brux. 00 more info: AR-15 Barreel by Odin - . Best Prices on Shilen Barrels? By LubeckTech in forum 110-Series Rifles 01-02-2014, 12:29 PM. Posted: 1/10/2017 8:38:06 PM EST [#12] Compass Lake Engineering offers Bartlein barrels now, as well as Krieger. Varberger757 Well-Known Member.
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