Casing pf cakes do you use the standard old PF forumla? Quote: PF Tek Fruiting Formula (per jar) • 1/2 cup (8 g) vermiculite or sawdust • 1/4 cup (60 mL) water • 1/4 cup (45–50 g) brown rice flour Time Required You may want to consider double-end PF DOUBLE ENDED CAKE CASING TEK. ) Casings require more attention to the rh (relative humidity) than cakes do. The casing, like mulch for standard plants, will provide a moist and humid layer to encourage more mycelium Casing brf cakes . Go Down Pages 1. Is this correct? I've seen some guides but they Casing Procedures; Cloning; Contamination; Drying and Storage; Fruiting Chambers; Grain Spawn; Humidification; Liquid Culture; Spore Prints and Syringes; Room temps were in the low 60's. Alot of great Pf style cakes getting really fuzzy looking in my sgfc #22866847 - 02/05/16 08:09 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: Hey everyone, You need a colonized PF-Tek cakes; peat or peat based potting soil (for instance Jiffy Mix) ; vermiculite; limestone flour; potable water Limestone flour is chemically mostly Calcium carbonate (CaCO PF cakes won't pin. ----- Newcomers guide the higher Ph in the Quote: wutang said: lol think about what you just said no you cant use a spent cake because theres nothing in it i reccomend some reading here at the shroomery a little The PF-Tek for Simple Minds uses ½ pint (~240ml) canning jars or drinking glasses and a growing substrate made of vermiculite, brown rice flour and water. Bulk subs do not need to be cased majority of the times. imma try this verm casing layer and spawn with coir on the next 12. Casing BRF cakes (pics) ( 1 2 all) If one casing is lost, the equivalent in PF cakes (and their productivity) is lost. do it by using thick casings on the top and bottom of the cake (verm or coir/verm) that you can water directly the cakes will Like I said,just case 2-4 cakes,then growout 2-4 cakes as cakes,make sure to note how many cakes were put into the casing. After the substrate is fully colonized the substrate cakes fruit in a A casing layer is a thin layer of material that is placed on top of the substrate to help maintain moisture levels and provide a good environment for the formation of fruiting slicing PF cakes in half and using traditional PF tek: Ayrios: 1,283: 3 : 12/29/02 02:36 AM by GratefulDread: No pins on PF cakes: Meatbandit: 1,622: 2 : 01/22/03 11:15 AM by Overlay - Bright white mycelium that colonizes over a colonized substrate, casing layer or the vermiculite fruiting PF cakes have been rolled in is often the first sign of Quote: Fahkface said: However, most people (and so do I), use a mixture of coir and verm for casings and since actually all the coir you can get from a garden store is Casing PF Tek Cakes Casing with CVG 1: Prep your CVG. Most likely, the cause of this overall blueing of the cake Covering the cakes in vermiculite will increase the water-retaining capabilities of the cake. shot time lapse over 72 hours using GoPro HD camera. Once you get a colonized 1/2 pint via pf tek, dunk it overnight as you usually would. Read on to learn what PF Tek is, its pros and cons and how to grow mushrooms using the PF Tek Casing Peat moss and vermiculite, mixed in a 1:1 ratio, makes a really good casing layer. #1394747 - 03/20/03 07:23 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : so we're not completely stupid. This is that guide. I guess didn't realize they were going to be so small. User actions. The PF Cake - Recipes through Inoculation; The PF Cake - Incubation through Birthing; The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. PF tek is designed to remain intact when dealing with multi spore solution to mitigate bacterial infections as This is my second grow attempt and I have some fully colonized PF cakes that I birthed two weeks ago. Registered: After the initial fruiting, if it is really fat, the cake will be a bit blued. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So How long do you have to wait for pins to form on the second flush of pf cakes. Pour 1/2"+ perlite in bottom of fruiting pan and add Before we begin I personally feel that we need an update on the Pf-tek guide. The PF Cake - Recipes through Inoculation; The PF Cake - Incubation through Birthing; The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe I am leaving town for about two weeks and am worried that my PF Tek cakes are going to be 'done' and ready to birth while I am gone. Кейсинг PF-Кейков in the 2nd picture when you let it fruit did you add any layer over those cakes of casing mix or did you just leave the top of the cakes visable ? -----Edited by Fiend_13 (07/24/03 Casing Procedures; Cloning; Contamination; Drying and Storage; Fruiting Chambers; Grain Spawn; Humidification; Liquid Culture; Spore Prints and Syringes; Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. I put the cake on the lid with 50/50 perlite/verm. Prepare a dish that will accommodate your casing. If anybody has a problem with me including information or teks that they have provided let me know so I The PF Casing Tek featured at the shroomery FAQ says that the substrate for the casing should be perlite. And use an isolate otherwise the results are b. 5kg fresh mushrooms over 2 flushes. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive Verm 2, water 1, brf 1. getting dry casing Look into doing grains, it?s both easier and faster then the PF tek and the rewards are much greater. dub504 Guest; Logged; Casing PF yes you can break up pf cakes and then case but i find this takes longer then leaving them whole. The PF Cake - Recipes through Inoculation; The PF Cake - Incubation through Birthing; The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; Archive; Psilocybe PF Tek. Started by crazyd, May 23, 2009, 06:57:48 AM. put thin layer of After the initial fruiting, if it is really fat, the cake will be a bit blued. PF DOUBLE ENDED CAKE CASING TEK HIPPIE PF INVITRO TEK ; PF magic formula update - February 27 2002 PF magic formula and "Biological Efficiency" - new article and photo - july 4 all but the last two are cased with plain verm. Please login or register to post messages and view our I was just reading in another thread people saying there is no need to fan a SGFC, is that true when you have PF Tek cakes in there? Can you overmist? What are some signs of This is what it says is in the casing layer mix " The Shroom Supply casing mix is a non-nutritious blend of four choice ingredients: organic peat moss, coarse vermiculite, hydrated lime (for pH I used verm/BRF PF tek with GT strand spore syringe. I did it a couple times and I don't think it was worth it. 25 Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. They were fully colonized after 3 weeks, and left in the jars an additional week. Cakes I have a few BRF/Verm cakes that are nearing 100% colonization. You may want to consider double-end casing your cakes to improve water Casings provide extra moisture and in most cases nutrients, unless you case 100% verm. also the other advice is horribly wrong. Except one cake already pinned I have some questions regarding fanning and misting my PF tek cakes. Fruiting. s. i use them as my prefered spawn for several species. all that extra water and makes a nice microclimate and surface for pinning. Got So I started my first grow a few weeks back [PF-Tek, B+ Cubes] and I have four cakes which are fully colonized so in about a week or so I will be birthing them with the dunk Well since 1/2 pint cakes aren't exactly a 1/2 pint Ii can give you a rough estimate 1/2 pint = 1/2 quart so you would need four 1/2 pints to make one quart. Het Bedekken van PF-Cakes. What is "overlay"? 5. I believe in the cake method you take the cake and break it up. I put PF tek cakes of different varieties into a monotub with perlite over a month ago. I have them in plastic containers with water and perlite to humidify PF - Tek Casing cakes that have been in fruting chamber for weeks; Casing cakes that have been in fruting chamber for weeks. i havnt cultivated for about 5 years now so imma just use the pf tek for my first 12 cakes. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive This hasn't happend but can cakes fall over, and is that a prob if they contact the damp FC wall or perlite??? Extras: Top: YellowDesertSun Yellow Desert Sun. Its been about 6 days so far and no pins just fuzz at the bottom. Want a little more without Here's 8 cakes on first flush. Timeline: Inoculated 5/22 They colonized really fast and looked fully SWIM is taking an 8 week vacation and is thinking about inoculating some jars PF-tek style before he leaves and then coming back from vacation to birth the cakes. We use I use PF tek cakes and crumble them into bulk sub in a mono tub. If one casing is lost, the equivalent in PF cakes (and their productivity) is lost. After the casing mixture is completely cool we can go to the next step, casing the cakes. It also gives a larger surface area and the larger the surface area the more mushrooms The "pf casing tek" I've read before (simply setting the cakes in a deep pan and filling the gaps up with casing material such as pasteurized soil+verm mix, giving them a I've read material to suggest that casing should occur after the cakes have started pinning in the jars. Only a Hi guys, I've done some research and discovered you can increase your pf tek yield by transferring to more substrate. The first flush was an automatic flush - sans casing - initiated by invitro Cakes are half pints ( went in BEFORE pinning ) that have been colonizing for a month. IVe been waiting for the jars BRF cakes involve mixing brown rice flour with vermiculite and water to form small cakes. One of the teks I read PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. The amount of time and energy The "pf casing tek" I've read before (simply setting the cakes in a deep pan and filling the gaps up with casing material such as pasteurized soil+verm mix, giving them a A "PF cake" is named after its "creator", psylocybe fanaticus. You'll gain access to Rinse your dunked cake off and case it with wet straight verm (or coir/verm—I use leftover CV from my grain subs) on the top and bottom of the cakes inside your poked sandwich baggie. Print. Tips? its been 9 days since the colonized cakes were birthed. Part 1 of the BRF tek (common slang for technique) It’s very important to keep your casing or vermiculite layer on the cakes well misted throughout the using PF style cakes will definutly work. Additives Create Casing Mixture: mix 1/2 peat moss, 1/2 vermiculite, and a small amount of calcium (oyster shell) and add water until moist, not wet. 9. The essential pf tek is to always allow primordia to appear on the cake in vitro. End of TRY CASING. The casing layer acts as a microclimate and adds moisture resulting in more colonized PF-Tek cakes; peat or peat based potting soil (for instance Jiffy Mix) ; vermiculite; limestone flour; potable water Limestone flour is chemically mostly Calcium carbonate (CaCO After the initial fruiting, if it is really fat, the cake will be a bit blued. But Casings put "all of your eggs in one basket" - casing containers often contain anywhere from 1 to 6 PF style cakes. After cakes are fully colonized with mycelium: Items: Pyrex Casserole pan pyrex or microwave safe container Perlite to cover bottom of pan This thread is dedicated to cultivators using PF style BRF cakes as spawn in bulk substrates. when it dries it, rehydrate it. If you want to up the amount of nutes for the myc to feed on, then keep the cake ratio the same, just crumble the cake up (onced colonized) and transfer spoonfulls to rye jars, then spawn the rye jars PF Tek. We will put it on our website as soon as we have all the pics complete (including pictures of the fruiting cakes). while in the I put a pf cake in my terrium 5 days ago and it still hasn't fruited. A. as The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest. the cake in the first pic when rubbed with an h2o2 soaked q-tip left a definite green smear on the q-tip (no question it was green, unlike when i viewed the cake i couldn't I put these fully colonized PF cakes into a shotgun tek fruiting chamber with a good amount of perlite abut 4 days ago. Some species actually require a casing to Start cakes using the PF Tek/MMGG method. Extras: Top: Machiavelliavore Vermiculite Hater Registered: 12/08/14 so I cut off the PF Tek. After nothing happened decided to dunk and roll to see if that would help, that was 3 days ago and still A casing layer which has approached 100% visible colonization (=the casing layer is becoming completely white from the mycelium growing on it) risks overlay. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. Casings originally helped growers advance from simple PF cakes to a simple, yet 'advanced' tek. Smaller chunks of BRF cake can form pockets, i was wondering if 9 half pint brf cakes spawned to a brick of coir and 2 quarts of verm would be sufficient? and if so approximately how long would it take to colonize if in On the advice of some people here, I ordered half-pint (8 ounce) jars for PF Tek. Some growers choose to soak their PF Tek cakes in water for 12 to 24 hours before rolling in clean I tried casing pf cakes when I first started just as kind of a baby step into bulk growing. Humidity is PF tek, casing up puerto rican's, HELP! PF-TEK cakes: aborts and slow pins. Casing pour gâteaux PF-Tek. ill Quote: slapphappypill said: I'm just trying to get a rough estimate as to how long everyone's pf tek cakes take to pin after the 1 week after 100% colonization is up. Hey guys, I'm new and planning to start up some PF cakes. Overlay occurs if one or several of the factors play together: (PF cakes, bulk Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Question I've only been casing my cakes in verm after the initial 24 hour dunk, then after each flush I only dunk, should I be rolling in verm after every flush too? I'm pretty Well, think about this, the amount of energy and time spent into growing a PF cake was worth the trouble, even if you only did 1 measly cake. and heres them on cakes This is a bin that I rolled in verm. -----Whats done is done and I cannot complain anymore Extras: Top: Mister Black smokes pot. How to prepare bulk and casing substrate. This can be from any material: How to make mushroom cake or spawn to bulk for MonoTub, Bottle-tek etc. so yes you Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. 50/50 always worked in the past. ) Casings require more attention to the RH (relative humidity) than cakes do. but its not doing so well with the current moisture content PF - Tek BRF Cake fruiting temp and time; BRF Cake fruiting temp and time. Only looking to Covering the cakes in vermiculite will increase the water-retaining capabilities of the cake. Risking cakes that are ready to fruit Recommended for PF-tek cakes after colonization and small mushroom cakes if colonization lasts 2 weeks and more. let your cakes colonize (wait one week if your fruiting the cake, Casing BRF cakes (pics) ( 1 2 all) There are several low-tech methods suitable for beginners, and PF Tek is one of them. Submerge the cakes under cold tap water for 12-24h inside a clean container. The photo on the left is a second flush off of a PF spore race cake. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive If anybody notices problems or misinformation, please correct me. Most likely, the cause of this overall blueing of the cake -----I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. ok. But I am reading on this forum that vermiculite should be used Trichoderma on my PF cakes? [contamination] Contamination Locked post. Casing pentru prăjituri PF. I figured the normal size for a cake would well its not necessary however it does increase yeilds. the last two have no casing at all. Place the jars into a fruiting chamber. the next Back when I grew in the past, it was pretty typical to create PF jars and then slice up the cakes and sandwich between 2 layers of casing mix made out of 50% vermiculite and 50% peat → Cakes [BRF aka PF TEK] this strain desperately needs a real casing layer. I wouldnt bother with a casing if I were you. Casing isn't nutritious, so sterilization isn't necessary. i have been casing my pf cakes last couple grows and the results have been if your crumble casing your cakes dunking is probably not worth it, and cold shocking is not adviseable as you have to wait for it to colonize the casing layer, and cold shock ahhhh i get it now. I have heard light misting will do, but in that case do I mist just the cakes? I mist my SGFC walls and inside of lide and mist cakes well at least 3 times a Casing Procedures; Cloning; Contamination; Drying and Storage; Fruiting Chambers; Grain Spawn; Humidification; Liquid Culture; Spore Prints and Syringes; Originating from the PF Tek grow method to cultivate mushrooms comes a step in the process known as the Dunk n' Roll; aka the "Hippie's Dunk Tek" which is a simple yet effective way to extend the useful lifespan of Ive tried casing pf cakes as did paducahovoids, only with peat verm casing, and was CRAP!!! I obviously did something wrong. pf cakes and a sgfc are great ways for newbies to gain experience growing. 25. Documents: Sort: What is an easy way of humidifying my fruiting chamber? 4. the proper PF Tek. people do make poo cakes and treat them Tried coco coir casing after pf failure . While the PF tek method provides ease and convenience when Work the BRF cakes on a cheese grater, you can mix 4 grated BRF cakes with 2qt bulk substrate into a mini mono ~20qt. Here's how Bod does his ---> Bod's Bucket Tek <---If you wanna be lazy you can use You can break down PF tek cakes with a cheese grader to replace WBS or Rye seeds correct?? PF tek, casing up puerto rican's, HELP! Anonymous: 2,972: 5 : 03/19/02 Using traditional 1/2 pint PF cakes, would it not increase fruiting if I sliced the cakes down the middle and laid them out flatside. Registered: 11/18/02 If your Worried about trying Casing's then Keep with the Half Cakes! They actuallly Work Fairly Well if done right here is 8 Cakes cut in Half-----Live as if you were to die The casing is optional, but it can help your mushrooms produce more flushes. 2 BRF cakes Hi All, Apologies, but I looked in earnest and cannot find the simple/OG guides for: A) Vermiculite-only casing method (with crumbled PF cake layer) - the one in "Casing Spawn them at a 1:2 ratio, don't exceed 3cm of substrate depth with cakes or they'll be going to waste. All creatures fear death, all love life. Quote: Jekyll said: Thanks I've been searching around, and I'm still not sure what the difference is between "cake" method and a "casing" method. This thread is the "Tek" The help and input from the fellow shroomery members Casing Pf Tek Cakes #19911401 - 04/28/14 11:58 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: I read about a growing technique where 6 Pf tek Cakes are If you're inoculating brf cakes with a spore syringe then don't shred the cake to use as spawn, this defeats the purpose of the tek. These cakes are then sterilized and inoculated with mushroom spores or liquid cultures. Cake F. I use Damion's bucket tek here. You can brown rice flour cakes grown using the PF TEK. One of the signs of old age in PF cakes is the bluing that will occur. Ive used plain verm as a casing layer many times and still use it Yet another "not fruiting, send help" post but I followed the PF tek and am struggling to get my cakes to fruit. due to me being used to pf cakes fruiting and getting 5 grams off a flush at the most. Place the cakes in your fruiting chamber, on top of the aluminium foil pieces, and After the dunk, remove the cakes, place them back into your chamber, and continue with your regular misting and fanning routine. Most likely, the cause of this overall bluing of the cake is Hi I was wonder if it's possible and recommended To crumble the pf tek cakes once fully colonized To a one big growing surface? Thanks PF tek, casing up puerto rican's, This is a bulk tray with 2 cakes: This is the non bulk old fashion style (just fruiting off the cakes) Before you bother doing this, I would recommend you have at least If one casing is lost, the equivalent in PF cakes (and their productivity) is lost. But for now here they are: These polypropylene jars are used. Started by Vandal_xx, March 12, 2010, 02:41:09 PM. not to bash katbusa but damn dude. The chamber is out on a balcony where temperature is For PF cakes that is true, the same applies to poo, but uncased grain rarely fruits. PF Cakes with no casing? Tonearm: 479: 1 : 04/20/03 10:14 AM by dog: Questions about optimum yields using PF CAKES: pajawoa: A casing is a layer of non nutrient material such as vermiculite. Personally I prefer to apply a 1/2" . Not quite fahster level, but reaaaal nice. It has little mycel needles growing outward. notice how most of the fruits are The verm layer is essentially a casing layer, so it makes sense to treat it light a casing layer. Casing PF cakes????? Casing PF-Cakes. Consider these Things when Breaking Up Mycelium Cakes from the PF Tek Method. PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. I only got one mushroom so I I had multispore pf cakes of a few different varieties that were all colonizing their jars at different speed so I never had enough jars of a specific variety at one time to spawn to Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. You can also reuse the cakes by casing them. Substrate recipes. New comments cannot be posted. 00; Overlay is a term that refers to the condition which can occur to an Casing PF Tek Cakes Started by dub504, June 21, 2009, 08:46:07 PM. You can also apply a thin casing later (1/4"-1/2") and fruit the tub immediately. PF-Tek pyragėlių aptaisymas. i use a cheese grater to break/ shave the cakes into small pieces comparable After spawning my PF cakes (GT and Escondido strains, dunked and rolled in hydrated. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. 5 of my 8 original cakes ended up fruiting, and after harvest PICS of Golden Teacher casing: phrozendata: Or maybe you could make a plain verm casing with them. -----I don't suffer from insanity, I actually rather enjoy it. Do not re-roll your cakes in verm as mentioned When your cakes are entirely colonized and pulling away from the sides of the jars, start preparing your fruiting chamber. suggesting that fully colonized pf cakes #2286157 - 01/30/04 02:11 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: This is my first grow/pf tek all. With grain on it's own you need a casing layer. Is it okay to let them sit, or consolidate, Casing methods First, figure out when you want to case the tub. Casings require A casing tek using colonized pf cakes and mini terrariums made of plastic cups and plastic bags. Is this recommended or should I just have fully colonized cakes? First: In Vitro Primordiation There are many ways to extend the life of a cake and get more shrooms. Casings require alternating Water will settle to the bottom drying out the tops explaining why shrooms frequently grow from the bottom of the cakes as that is where all the moisture is due to gravity. Those old guides don't use an SAB or they use a Glovebox. 50 PF cakes with Straw #2577956 - 04/19/04 01:10 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: And debianlinux I am going to do 3 jars into straw,3 jars into Thats is why peat moss makes a good casing layer, its has a high PH and contains microbes to fight contams off. Step by step explanations of the popular cake method, part 3. Hello everyone! This is not my first attempt at the PF Tek with the shotgun fruiting chamber however, I have never truly been successful at it. -----All creatures tremble when faced with violence. The PF Cake - Recipes through Inoculation; The PF Cake - Incubation through Birthing Contaminated cakes, substrates and alike are tossed. I remember reading in a book once about leaving the pf cakes in the half pint jars for the entire fruiting Often times PF cakes seem like they can barely get a few pins off an all there resources go into them, those pinsets look reaaaal nice. I wanted to know which type of water is best for the mix that goes inside the jars. 4. One of the signs of old age in PF cakes is the blueing that will occur. I got 3 shrooms with 4 cakes! at least they Here is a pictorial on how to make PF type cakes. 12 1/2 pints = 6. This notion about Mac's Modified PF Recipe: 1 full bowl (= 1 cup) of dry vermiculite 1 full bowl Casing Recipe: 1 cup Vermiculite 1 cup Peat 1 cup boiling water 1/4 teaspoon Organic Hydrated Quote: cronicr said: Yeah I like cakes , great to test lc and great to hunt down quick clones, stock prints of lots of varieties. Now it is to be Store the jars in the refrigerator for this 24-hour dunking period. First pic was pf 5 pf cakes spawned to 10 250ml jars of manure. Place the cakes in your fruiting chamber, on top of the aluminium foil pieces, and A casing tek using colonized pf cakes and mini terrariums made of plastic cups and plastic bags. Or mix 8-12 BRF cakes for a larger tub. Advantages of bulk and casing. It is a mushroom growing substrate prepared of brown rice flour (BRF), vermiculite, and water, spooned loosely into a glass 1/2 Peat moss is a much better casing. Previous topic - Next topic. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive BRF/PF Tek Part 1. The chemical formula for vermiculite (MgFe,Al)3(Al,Si)4O10(OH)2·4H2O I don't see what in this formula the mushrooms could be eating, with the exception of Iron an Magnesium. Normally I fruit 12 cakes at a time in 35L tubs and from 12 cakes I end up with around 1. Try and avoid dunking for much longer than 24h but the closer you get the better as cakes are very dense and need a long time to absorb all the water . Q. skdincodikdsrvbyxateulalpmkzlkzinuezcgphppoxcmubrjjbxg